Curse

Mavrik · Oct 24, 2007, 04:28 PM // 16:28

I always target the mages and mesmers of the group when fighting the Jade. When against the Afflicted, I target the ritualists and necromancers first. They seem to do the most damage.

YunSooJin · Oct 24, 2007, 04:35 PM // 16:35

just a heads up -

in most MMOs, as you 'grow' so to speak, you become more and more omnipotent, especially if you revisit older areas. This is not strictly true for Guild Wars. Your character will never be able to run around and solo level 20 monsters, with the exception of some specialized builds. You will never become 'godlike'. You can definitely become far far stronger through synergistic usage of skills, as well as better bars on both you and your heroes, but you never actually reach the point where you can just walk into an area with massive numbers of level 20 monsters and call down fire, rain, lightning and blow them all to tiny little bits.

Game just isn't like that. But for those who don't mind that particular loss, this game a lot more to offer exactly because it doesn't turn out that way.

Xiooua · Oct 24, 2007, 05:05 PM // 17:05

Like others have said, getting max armor is your top priority, then you need to get to level 20. Which will be relatively simple since you're level 17 now. The Kaineng quests give 1k+ experience, so you'll get to 20 in no time. Also, most quests give gold rewards too, so you'll earn money in the process to afford armor.

If you want help around Kaineng with the quests, feel free to whisper me in game, my IGN is Lliessa D. I have nothing to do these days, so I'd be happy to help a fellow Ritualist.

Corwin_Andros · Oct 24, 2007, 05:17 PM // 17:17

One other thing if you have all the campaigns... Once you hit lvl 20 in KC.. don't do any more quests there that don't put you towards your next mission. The reason I'm advising this is so that once you go into Nightfall and collect some heroes, you can use the remaining quests to level your heroes up nice and fast. The xp rewards in factions border on the ridiculous at times, and you can level a half dozen heroes up to lvl 20 there in a day's work.

mr_groovy · Oct 24, 2007, 05:21 PM // 17:21

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Originally Posted by Corwin_Andros

One other thing if you have all the campaigns... Once you hit lvl 20 in KC.. don't do any more quests there that don't put you towards your next mission. The reason I'm advising this is so that once you go into Nightfall and collect some heroes, you can use the remaining quests to level your heroes up nice and fast. The xp rewards in factions border on the ridiculous at times, and you can level a half dozen heroes up to lvl 20 there in a day's work.

Actually Don't get to lvl 20. Go straight to Elona get your hero's. Then go back and lvl u and your hero's with quest rewards. Hero's + good build == GG.

Corwin_Andros · Oct 24, 2007, 05:37 PM // 17:37

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Originally Posted by mr_groovy

Actually Don't get to lvl 20. Go straight to Elona get your hero's. Then go back and lvl u and your hero's with quest rewards. Hero's + good build == GG.

Good point.. and it's pretty easy at that point too.. you can knockout the first 3 missions in Elona pretty easily for some decent xp and in only a quest or two be ready for the Elonan mainland too.

lol.. I've done that whole thing so many different ways it's hard to keep up with them all.

Rocky Raccoon · Oct 24, 2007, 07:06 PM // 19:06

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Originally Posted by nkaw

Oh... it's the armor. Hmm, don't they cost 1k per piece? That's a bit expensive for someone who only has about 4k

I guess I could get the ones from those collectors around the area. But to farm the mobs for the tokens I guess I still need some decent armor to wear... oh well, I will try. Thanks for pointing that out!

And about getting to level 20 asap before going any further, I am confused because I see some level 10s or even lower in Keineng city, and they are Factions chars so they must've got there somehow... and some are below level 15 and doing quests in the area. I guess they are on their way to other connected areas like Tyria or something.

You can go back to the island and farm until you get enough money for the armor you need.

Shiishii Momo · Oct 24, 2007, 08:07 PM // 20:07

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Originally Posted by nkaw

Wow, I got loads of helpful replies here in a matter of minutes

First of all thanks to Lagg for a very nice introduction and links, and everyone else for pointing out what has to be changed.

As for the aggro, it was a bit of a surprise to me that AI will generally go for someone with lowest health and AR, I think I really should get WoW out of my head and learn this new game as I tend to not look up those things and think the game systems are similar to WoW (which I played for about 2 years and recently quit.

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Welcome to GW and to Guru, my IGN is Shiishii Momo, I am on most nights at 1900 U.S. P.S.T. I would be happy to work with you a little on rit training, and I will give you the gold and materials needed to craft the max armor.

arcady · Oct 24, 2007, 08:54 PM // 20:54

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Originally Posted by nkaw

And about getting to level 20 asap before going any further, I am confused because I see some level 10s or even lower in Keineng city, and they are Factions chars so they must've got there somehow...

People get run to Kaening so they jump off to Prophesies for cheaper costing armor (by getting run to Droknar's Forge) or jumping off to Nightfall for heroes or cheaper and better looking armor.

And sometimes people get run from one of those to get to Factions, and then get Faction armor making them appear to be Factions characters when they are not.

It is not at all hard to get there by level 10 if you are coming from Prophesies, or get run there from one of the other campaigns.

Beyond that, I'm sure you don't want to know how many of us can do the quests around there on a level 10 character. That may seem impossible now, but once you understand Aggro management in the GW style, the quests in that area are some of the easiest ones in the game. I bring my characters there to speed level them.

WoW tanks have it easy... in WoW the tank can 'taunt' the enemy and force them to attack the tank - the target which is the hardest one to take down. Very unrealistic feeling to it. Everytime I come back to GW after a jaunt in WoW I have to remember that I can't just stand next to the tank... I have to get out of the way of the incoming damage.

To shake aggro in WoW you run towards the melee, to shake aggro in GW you run away from it.

A GW tank has to grab up aggro by becoming a greater threat to the opposition than the target they desire to go after. This is hard to do, which is one reason why Warriors in PUGs are so bad... Henchmen warriors are usually better than player warriors.

wilebill · Oct 24, 2007, 10:50 PM // 22:50

1. For money go back to the mainland and farm the high end areas; make sure you did all the Island quests. When you have the money in hand, go get your max armor.

2. While on the island, get a Longbow, one that has no marksmanship requirement. Even as a caster you need a Longbow for pulling; and against Jade, you are probably better off staying at Longbow range until the hench have one or two of them down.

3. The hench can actually do most of your work, or all of your work for you if you stay to the rear and avoid putting a mana drain on your monk and spirit henchmen as they vainly try to keep you healed. Set yourself for healing and party support, nevermind damage; just keep the monks healthy and the hench can take down almost anything by themselves.

arcady · Oct 24, 2007, 11:06 PM // 23:06

Since 7 henchmen are often enough to clean content in the Bukdek and Waijun areas, you can also often sit on one end of the map and flag your henchies to the other end where a mob is, letting them clean house, and then going in to collect the drops.

Or let the mob take you down on purpose, and then flag the henchies far enough out that they won't rez you, so they can finish the fight and not waste energy on foolish in combat rez's. Then when its over, get a rez, and collect.

Something I have not tried is letting myself stay down, and using the flags to move the henchies all over the zone clearing out everything. You can do this - once your down you can click on a henchie and see the world through their eyes, and then just use flags to move them. What I don't know is what will happen to drops and my XP if I do it.

This assumes you have Nightfall or GW:EN and thus access to flags.

Dragasa · Oct 24, 2007, 11:44 PM // 23:44

If you're low on cash there's always Collector armor: http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Ritualist_collector_armor

bhavv · Oct 25, 2007, 12:12 AM // 00:12

As many have suggested, you will need lvl 60 armor to survive. Also when making hench teams, try to ensure you have 3 healers or 2 healers and a protector, and 5 damage ones. It will be a lot better with heroes, but try this - in areas where there are 2 monk and a ritualist hench, take all 3 allong with kai ying, cynn, and another two ranged damage ones of your choice. you go as a communing rit with a painful bond spirit spike.

lg5000 · Oct 25, 2007, 12:18 AM // 00:18

I noticed the lag too.. its annoying because its only in the keineng city area, everywhere else, its fine.

Master Sword Keeper · Oct 25, 2007, 02:58 AM // 02:58

heh heh Made a Factions monk. By the time i was lvl 6 i was in Nightfall.

Explanation: A group of lvl 20's helpin me. LAWL

It's tough sometimes to get max armour that's why there's been a huge Bitching session about the loot scaling and what not. That's why It's hard to afford 1k armour at best. Best advice is... Check the Wajjun Bazarr for quests that you can just run around for. And always start with the "Search for a cure" that way Am FAh wont kick ur butt whilst you level up.

Have fun.

Lord Sojar · Oct 25, 2007, 03:06 AM // 03:06

I recommend using HAX. All veteran players use them. You can find them using this method.

Goto www.guildwarsguru.com/forum

Troll and use terms such as "WTF" "noob" and "anet suxors" as much as possible.

Pester Gaile with lame reasons as to why you need 7 heroes and want to be antisocial in a social game environment.

Continually point out how only your opinion matters, and make threads that express this ALL THE TIME. If a mod closes your thread, open 4 in its place, because obviously they were closing it because they are noobz and don't know how to play.

Don't get max armor, only FoW armor will do, otherwise you are unworthy and will be a noob foREVAR!

On a more serious note though, make sure you have max armor, and find a veteran player that is actually willing to be social and "help" you... I know, help is such a big word anymore... but I think you have a 19.253856132% chance to find a helpful player.

bungusmaximus · Oct 25, 2007, 06:40 AM // 06:40

You DID do the attribute quests in ran musu gardens and seitung harbor rite?

Yesterday I rolled my monk again for kicks, she is my oldest character and she has been through a LOT of funky stuff. It only turned out she still needed her attribute quests, so 1/5 year after I created her I thought it maybe was time for those extra attribute points *GOD I felt stupid :P*

nkaw · Oct 25, 2007, 07:46 AM // 07:46

Thanks again for the tips everyone. I've read all and already did some changes when I was on today, it seems to be a lot better.

About having heroes to control, unfortunately I don't have Nightfall yet but I am thinking of getting it. As some pointed out, being able to control them and pulling a few mobs with a ranged weapon instead of having to worry about henchies getting into the aggro range of a whole bunch of mobs at once would make the game a lot better.

And about aggro, yes in WoW it sure is a lot easier and simpler to tank, although you do find it a bit annoying to do it because there will always be those DPS classes who are a bit too concerned about topping the DPS meter and they end up outthreatting you

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I seem to have a lot to learn in this game, but I am already finding it quite interesting